Relive the talk between Audrey Lopez (RN) and André Villiers (Horizons), certified within the second spherical within the second constituency of Yonne

The 2 candidates within the working within the Yonne’s second constituency exchanged round six themes for over an hour this Thursday, June 16, 2022. The chance for Audrey Lopez (RN), who got here first within the first spherical with 30.72% of the vote, and the outgoing André Villiers (Ensemble, Horizons – 29.22%) to specific their views on present points and native politics make clear.

You might be in opposition to one another by only a few votes, how do you method this second spherical?

Audrey Lopez: Quiet. I’ve 500 votes upfront, it is not large, however I’ve some spare. Many individuals haven’t come to vote, there are Marine Le Pen voters amongst them, I hope they arrive. And I even have the reserve of the patriotic votes that went to Mr. Zemmour.

André Villiers : I’m a really cautious and humble individual concerning the outcomes. I method issues with nice warning, I’m transferring ahead step-by-step. To say that we’ve got reservations about voting as a result of one or the opposite abstained doesn’t appear to me to be political evaluation.

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buying energy

Which measure is most pressing by way of buying energy?

Audrey Lopez : Buying energy is essential to us on the Nationwide Rally. It’s already essential to scale back the VAT on fuels from 20 to five.5%, which might restore households between 100 and 200 euros in buying energy. And likewise the discount of VAT to 0% on 100 provides, hygiene and meals merchandise. With a view to finance the measures, we are able to fight fraud, particularly in social safety. There are over 50 million on the market, we may very effectively restore them.

André Villiers : There are measures which can be well-known, it’s for instance the tripling of the Macron bonus, the fee of bonuses by corporations that pay dividends, the abolition of the tv tax after which the upkeep of the tariff protect on gasoline and electrical energy.

Are these measures ample?

André Villiers : No, as we’ve got entered an inflationary cycle. The value drop will proceed, it should make day by day selections to make corrections.


Is pension reform essential?

André Villiers : It is important. The pay-as-you-go system have to be preserved.

What about individuals who began working early, farmers for instance?

André Villiers : Personally, I’ve not invoked my pension rights and I’ve exceeded the age.

Audrey Lopez : You might be an MP!

André Villiers : Getting elected is not a job, it is a place.

Audrey Lopez : I do know, however I assume you do not sit on the tractor fairly often.

André Villiers : Include me for per week, you will note. Retirement age is a matter of debate as some events suggest 60 years, which is pure demagoguery. The pinnacle of state has taken an choice on the age of 64, this undertaking may very well be topic to a referendum, that is what I am for. Sixty-four years is cheap and balanced by way of budgets and social payments.

Audrey Lopez : It is an excessive amount of for us, we’re at 60 for retirement, with 40 annuities. Sixty years previous offered they began at 17 so these are the scholars. Those that work fund the retirement of others, so we’ve got to start out over with full employment. We have now an excessive amount of unemployment. The coed who later went to work leaves on the age of 62. Somebody who works in an workplace all his life is much less worn out than somebody who does roofs under 35 levels.

How do you view authorities coverage for retirees?

André Villiers : I used to be within the opposition, no person observed. I by no means spared my phrases in opposition to selections that appeared unacceptable to me. The UDI allowed its deputies to talk and vote. I’ll preserve these two fundamentals. Issues are recognized, these I’ve to affix know, there isn’t a ambiguity about it.

Well being

The constituency faces medical desertification, ought to medical doctors be paid?

Audrey Lopez : We proposed contract work, I even intervened with the Area to ship 200 salaried medical doctors, it was massively rejected by the opposite teams. The pay system can work, however the medical doctors additionally need attractiveness, they must play the sport. What could be good is that in the event that they depart their research, they’ll work for six months and even miss areas.

Can we pressure them to come back?

Audrey Lopez : We may, in precept, so long as there are gaps. We additionally want to assist international medical doctors of their efforts, we want them. We at all times get the fundamental caricature within the face of immigration, however Marine Le Pen has at all times stated that when medical posts are open, precedence is given to French medical doctors, however when there aren’t, we are able to name on strangers.

André Villiers : On the authoritarian measure that will be to pressure medical doctors to come back to an space as they had been pressured to go to a pharmacy on the time of colonization, no. However throughout their course we are able to supply them to find an space for six months or a yr.


Is defending the atmosphere a precedence for you?

Audrey Lopez : It is essential, but it surely belongs to everybody. Politicians needed to impose an excessive amount of on residents and typically in a punitive manner. We should cease globalization, return to localism. They wish to impose electrical automobiles on us, however who can afford them now? As well as, we’ve got bioethanol, why do not we develop the software to put in the packing containers?

What do you consider the event of wind generators?

Audrey Lopez : It is a frenzy, we cease.

André Villiers : I’m in opposition to putting in extra wind generators on the territory. We sacrificed territories by anarchist spreading of masts, once we may have concentrated them in locations the place they would not disturb anybody. We put it all over the place, we’ve got to cease. I agree with the pinnacle of state on nuclear power, it’s the solely type of carbon-free power.

Audrey Lopez : We have now at all times supported nuclear power.


You’re a former police officer, what’s your opinion on the insecurity on this constituency?

Audrey Lopez : I believe we’re not an space the place there may be a variety of bodily insecurity, however we’ve got a variety of burglaries. There’s a lack of gendarmes, of personnel on the bottom. Crime has been growing in our nation for twenty years, we’re utterly at a standstill. For years I’ve been reminded of the legislation. We do not put individuals in jail anymore as a result of we run out of house.

Has the federal government carried out sufficient about home violence and violence in opposition to ladies?

André Villiers : I believe he paved the best way. He dropped at mild a phenomenon that was recognized however not effectively recognized. Now that that is taken under consideration, we should transfer on. It’s essential to extend the employees on the nationwide degree of social staff, magistrates. We should brace ourselves for our 600 gendarmes of the Yonne, it’s crucial that their numbers don’t fall, we can not go beneath them.

Audrey Lopez : I do not assume we went far sufficient in any respect. We’d like extra digital bracelets, severe hazard telephones, devoted magistrates.

Struggle in Ukraine

Ought to we proceed to assist Ukraine economically and militarily?

André Villiers : Sure, as a result of there may be aggression from the neighboring nation on the integrity of the territory, and Ukraine is the tree that hides the forest, the neighboring international locations worry.

Audrey Lopez : Economically sure, as a result of there are individuals, however by giving them weapons, we’re considerably liable for the battle. We pay for the implications of the sanctions, every time it’s the Frenchman who pays.

Do you assist Ukraine in becoming a member of the European Union?

André Villiers : Sure.

Audrey Lopez : I don’t assume so. I’m not a fan of Europe, everybody ought to preserve their sovereignty.

Avallon has taken in lots of Ukrainian refugees, is their future in France?

Audrey Lopez : We needed to welcome them. It is not a inhabitants that bothers me. Many Ukrainians have discovered work. In case you come to a rustic to settle there, play the sport, that is not an issue for me. If we come to steal, rape, fuck the binz and smoke crack, we do not want it. We have now sufficient delinquents in France. It’s this immigration that doesn’t need the Nationwide Rally.

A minute to persuade

Audrey Lopez:

André Villiers:

Absolute or relative majority, who cares?

Maelle Hamma, Julien Pepinot, Sophie Bardin

Images Marion Boisjot

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